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Posted by: Juliette at April 16, 2004 08:25 PM (Permalink)

Ye of little faith Baldi...lol

Posted by: Justin Levine at April 17, 2004 04:27 AM (Permalink)

A billion dollar industry, mostly centered in the San Fernando Valley is shut down for 60 days. I'm not sure why sixty days is long enough because it takes 6 months to be sure that someone is really negative -- or has the testing improved?

Do you know if the economic impact of that shutdown will be felt? I don't know how to estimate economic impact in a small area like that.

Posted by: Justene at April 17, 2004 08:33 AM (Permalink)

You dumbass HIV is a hetero disease if you don't have subtype B. In countries like Thailand and increeasing Brazil and INDIA as well as Africa- Subtypes A and E and I dominate(there are aprx. 13 subtypes of AIDS)Only subtype B which still predominates in the USA is hard to catch hetero sexually because it requires a more bloodborne transmission wheras A and E and I which are hetero need LANgerhorn sites that are easily transmitted through the mucousalarea of the genital track.

Posted by: hpv18 at April 18, 2004 12:51 AM (Permalink)

You dumbass HIV is a hetero disease if you don't have subtype B. In countries like Thailand and increeasing Brazil and INDIA as well as Africa- Subtypes A and E and I dominate(there are aprx. 13 subtypes of AIDS)Only subtype B which still predominates in the USA is hard to catch hetero sexually because it requires a more bloodborne transmission wheras A and E and I which are hetero need LANgerhorn sites that are easily transmitted through the mucousalarea of the genital track.

Posted by: hpv18 at April 18, 2004 12:51 AM (Permalink)

You dumbass HIV is a hetero disease if you don't have subtype B. In countries like Thailand and increeasing Brazil and INDIA as well as Africa- Subtypes A and E and I dominate(there are aprx. 13 subtypes of AIDS)Only subtype B which still predominates in the USA is hard to catch hetero sexually because it requires a more bloodborne transmission wheras A and E and I which are hetero need LANgerhorn sites that are easily transmitted through the mucousalarea of the genital track.

Posted by: hpv18 at April 18, 2004 12:51 AM (Permalink)

You dumbass HIV is a hetero disease if you don't have subtype B. In countries like Thailand and increeasing Brazil and INDIA as well as Africa- Subtypes A and E and I dominate(there are aprx. 13 subtypes of AIDS)Only subtype B which still predominates in the USA is hard to catch hetero sexually because it requires a more bloodborne transmission wheras A and E and I which are hetero need LANgerhorn sites that are easily transmitted through the mucousalarea of the genital track.

Posted by: hpv18 at April 18, 2004 12:51 AM (Permalink)

You dumbass HIV is a hetero disease if you don't have subtype B. In countries like Thailand and increeasing Brazil and INDIA as well as Africa- Subtypes A and E and I dominate(there are aprx. 13 subtypes of AIDS)Only subtype B which still predominates in the USA is hard to catch hetero sexually because it requires a more bloodborne transmission wheras A and E and I which are hetero need LANgerhorn sites that are easily transmitted through the mucousalarea of the genital track.

Posted by: hpv18 at April 18, 2004 12:51 AM (Permalink)

Justene - I doubt that the economic impact will be that great. Though I admit that I may be proven wrong.

While porn is a muti-billion dollar industry - the money it generates is primarily on the consumption end. The money generated into the economy on the production end isn't that great when compared with other industries.

People will likely continue to pay the same amount for porn videos regardless if they are offered new product or if they are "forced" to buy older vintage film titles.

The only immediate direct effect of this economically is the actors and production companies that make this product, and the "mainstream" porn companies happen to be a rather small and tightnit group.

Posted by: Justin Levine at April 18, 2004 02:10 AM (Permalink)

To hpv18:

I will assume that the multiple repeat posts was simply due to computer problems on your end.

If what you say is true and it really is that simple, then why haven't strains A, E, and I exploded in this country? Certainly we have enough immigration to bring these strains over here.

Why is it that heterosexual AIDS seems to be relatively contained in virtulally every industrialized country?

With the global economy and immigration trends, you would think that it would be difficult for certain strains to know when to stop at a country's borders.

But hey, if what you say is true, then we should certainly find out in the next 2 months or so.

I will go on record as predicting that the only other people to get infected by James will be those that had anal sex with him (or shared needles with him) after his return from Brazil.

And I will further predict that there will be NO secondary infections whatsoever from the James case (i.e., no cases of people having sex with James in turn infecting other people that they have sex with.)

Care to wager any money on this hpv18?

Let's take a look at the concrete figures from the CDC shall we?

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm#cumaids

Through 2002 (the most recent year they have finalized figures available for) they report a cumulative total of AIDS cases in the U.S. from heterosexual contact to be 135,628.

If you consider that AIDS was first reported in 1981, that averages out to be less than 6,500 cases per year - a paultry figure by epidemic standards.

Don't you find it curious that this figure hasn't grown exponentially over the years if your hypothesis is correct?

But even this figure is inflated and misleading for a number of reasons:

1. "Heterosexual contact" is not defined other than the fact that the people in question are heterosexual. In other words, this statistic does not break down which of these people engaged in heterosexual anal sex, which the CDC still counts as "heterosexual contact".

2. The statistics also do not break down how many of these heterosexual contacts were with people who also injected intravenous drugs.

3. Even then, the figure is likely inflated since there is still a stigma against homosexuality and drug use in this country. If the CDC has concrete proof that a case's transmission was from homosexual behavior or drug use, then they will note it. But if they aren't sure, then they will often count it as a "heterosexual" default explanation, even though many people are embarassed to admit otherwise to health care workers and manage to hide the truth.

Posted by: Justin Levine at April 18, 2004 02:39 AM (Permalink)

Well, I've been predicting this shit ever since I paid a visit to the termas in Rio de Janeiro and saw what a public disaster it was.

Darren James was infected while fucking prostitutes he picked up at a few termas while in Rio de Janeiro. Although the official story is that he got it because he didn't wear a condom during filming, it's well known this guy and his buddies were throwing orgies with girls from the local termas (Centaurus and 4x4).

I wouldn't be surprised if the Brazilian porn actresses were also HIV+, since they all work in the termas as well anyways.

Anyways, his infection has pretty much brought the porn industry to a halt for now. Porn actors are refusing to film in Brazil or have anything to do with people who have filmed there. The scare is on.

Posted by: george at April 18, 2004 11:59 AM (Permalink)

I work in the industry on the production end... and you know what we call a straight man with AIDS? A liar. IV drug use or receptive anal sex are how you get it. The years of figures on this bear this out.. and people always lie about sex. There have been several studies of gay men who officially claim they got it through oral sex... mainly because they were embarassed to admit they had unprotected receptive anaI sex. I suppose we should give Darren some benefit of the doubt, but he would prove to be the extremely rare exception.

I'm not sure where hpv is getting his info, but the facts do not bear him out.. as stated, if that were true, we would have a whole new epidemic on our hands.. and we don't. And lots of men go back and forth to the sexual hotbeds around the world and come back and sleep with more people to no effect.

And maybe officially the industry is "shutting down".. but unofficially, there is still plenty of production going on.

Posted by: Tomxxxdirector at April 18, 2004 06:24 PM (Permalink)

As much as it distrubs me the facts are that humans will do anything to have sex. They will also lie just to engage in this behavior. When I served in the Navy in the 1980's I remember that HIV was being touted as "the Gay Plague" and that even thoughit was running wild in America our
President, Reagan, failed to act upon the spread of it to the general population until it entered the heterosexual population . Now, HIV is again becoming newsworthy. What this should alert the
rest of our population is that HIV can remain undetected for months, maybe years, and even though the adult film industry is taking prudent steps to protect their talent HIV is very opportunisitic, and if given an opening (no pun intended) it will have its way with your system.
Will it cost them financially. You bet. Will they recover that loss? No doubt. Will those infected be compensated or offerred the long term medications needed to prolong there lives? That is in the air. No one seems to be touching it as a point of contention at this time. It's all about the money. HIV - yeah - even AIDS, is not the automatic death sentance it was at one time..
In the Philippines the first case of HIV was detected at the then Subic Bay Naval Base outside Olongapo City in 1984 - '85. One of my lovers died from it. I have been testing for it ever since - so far, I am negative. Yes, it is now in other parts of Asia - Thailand being ground zero of the newer starins that were injected into the population by European and American Tourists. With the level of travel from other nations it is indeed incredible that these infections have not take root here. More reasons why couples should curb their desire to "cross pollenate" others and commit to a monogamous relationship. Be thankful that the US porn industry has a system of checks and that this matter has been contained. Pray for the people affected, and pray that they can understand the need for them dedicate their lives to education to others of how devastating this infection can be.

Posted by: Gregory A. Pierson, BSW at April 18, 2004 08:22 PM (Permalink)

Hi, I just need to point out that the book you cite ("The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS" by Michael Fumento) is full of misconceptions and deceiving conclusions.

Mr. Fumento has no training whatsoever in the medical sciences, and as a political pundit he has written on many topics that only have one thing in common: furthering the racist agenda of someone who belongs to the "Darwin Research Group".

One of his 'conclusions' (not supported by data at all) is that the higher rates among Black and Hispanic populations in the USA, as well as the high rate of heterosexual AIDS in Africa, is because bisexuality among men of those ethnic groups is more common.

This is a book of hatred, like all others written by this individual, and held in high esteem by White Supremacist groups. While it is true that anal sex presents a higher risk, it is also true what another poster pointed out: other types of AIDS are better transmitted through heterosexual contact. I suggest you do some research on it.

Why it has not been a plague in the "First World"? That is a puzzling question, since at the moment the rates of heterosexual AIDS are much higher in countries like Brasil, Thailand and several others in the sub-saharan region. In fact, the asnwer has appeared recently in many journals.

It seems, somehow, that non-Caucasians are more prone to contract HIV of types other than type B, and that African Blacks are even at higher risk of doing so. I suggest you go over to PubMed and do a little research on this. The reasons for it are not known, and many people (myself included) find it baffling.

Posted by: Himbaij at April 18, 2004 11:38 PM (Permalink)

WHAT IS THE WEBSITE ADRESS TO THE ADULT INDUSTRY MEDICAL HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION??

Posted by: ALLEN MERCY at April 19, 2004 03:50 PM (Permalink)

This is such a load of homophobic shit. Since when is anal sex not a "traditional heterosexual behaviour"? More like the holy grail of hetero. And what's with all this prurient "I don't want to get more explicit" bullshit? Does anyone here believe this guy doesn't watch porn?

Studies consistently show that homosexual behaviour varies only minutely between cultures. People in Thailand and Africa are getting AIDS the old fashioned way, folks: by having unprotected heterosexual intercourse and by the multiple use of syringes in shoddy clinics. Bullshit like "a straight AIDS victim is a liar" is like something from a eugenic pamphlet.

Go tell husbands in Louisiana who are bringing it home from truck stop hookers that they're lying.

Posted by: Shenanigans at April 19, 2004 08:38 PM (Permalink)

The holy grail of hetero? I'm a very straight and happily married American male with a healthy sex life, and though I like a shapely female ass as well as the next (straight) guy the last thing I want is to go up the old Hershey highway. I have a few kinky things I like to do during sex, but sticking Mr. Happy into the poop chute isn't one of them. Maybe some straight guys enjoy that, and if they do more power to them, but I would just as soon stay away from the dump, and I know a lot of other guys that feel that way too.

Posted by: dave at April 20, 2004 04:47 PM (Permalink)

Lots of good comments - though there are a few not so good ones. Allow me to respond to those that need responding to...

To Greg Pierson: "Will it cost them financially. You bet. Will they recover that loss? No doubt. Will those infected be compensated or offerred the long term medications needed to prolong there lives? That is in the air."

That's a great question. I myself couldn't tell you the answer for sure. But if I had to guess, I'd say that there will be little compensation forthcoming from the adult film industry. They are not orgainized the same way as (for instance) the Screen Actors' Guild is or other guilds and unions that provide benefits to their members. I suspect that the adult industry will profess sympathy, but not offer any money.

Now even though I think our tort system is out of control, it would be an interesting question to see if a creative personal injury lawyer decides to come up with a lawsuit against the industry a la the tobacco industry for encouraging performers to engage in high risk behavior regarding HIV. Maybe some lawyers are seeing big $$$'s in Roxx's case. Who knows?

To himbaij: Your comments are the most ignorant to date and prove only one thing - that you didn't really read Fumento's book.

Mr. Fumento has no training whatsoever in the medical sciences... This is true. Journalists often have little training in the subjects they cover. That doesn't make their reporting less valid. Most journalists covering war have never been in combat. Most journalists covering business issues have never run a business. Most reporting on legal cases don't have law degrees. And none of these people need to have these backgrounds. When you support your arguments and conclusions with facts that are easily verifiable, then having such "qualifications" is irrelevent in the world of journalism as long as you have basic honesty.

One of his 'conclusions' (not supported by data at all) is that the higher rates among Black and Hispanic populations in the USA, as well as the high rate of heterosexual AIDS in Africa, is because bisexuality among men of those ethnic groups is more common.

This is simply a lie. Fumento says no such thing. What he does say is that heterosexual minorities in the USA have higher HIV rates than white heterosexuals in America because there is a higher percentage of per capita intravenous drug use among minorities (which is true).

He further says that homosexuality is more of a cultural taboo in Africa than it is here and thus it is much harder to determine how large the gay population in Africa truly is - and thus should not be discounted as a possible factor for the spread of AIDS in that country along with the well established factors such as a third world medical system that often shares needles and a higher prevelance of other STD's that are not being treated.

This is a far cry from your description.

This is a book of hatred, like all others written by this individual, and held in high esteem by White Supremacist groups.

The only hatred here is your own post. I have no doubt that White Supremacist groups have unfortunately used Fumento's research as an excuse to justify their hatred of gay people and their warped thinking that HIV is a "just punishment" for gay people. But that is the equivalent of saying that a report that accurately writes about the fact that minorities have a higher incident of drug use per capita in this country must come from a racist source. None of this is Fumento's fault. He resports the facts and lets the chips fall where they may.

Fumento does weigh into politics in one regard - by writing truthfully about the fact that in the middle stages of the AIDS scare, when it was becoming obvious that AIDS was not spreading into the heterosexual community as it had been in the gay community, many gay activists sought to deliberately distort the figures and news about AIDS in order to scare people into thinking that heterosexuals were "equally at risk" regarding AIDS as the gay community was. No doubt they were motivated to do this out of fear that medical funding and research on AIDS would be held back if the nation only looked upon it as a "gay plague". Perhaps they were justified in this fear. Who knows? But it doesn't chage the facts, and Fumento's only sin was reporting the facts even though some groups had (and continue to have) a vested interest in distorting them. Regretfully, you seem to be among them.

"It seems, somehow, that non-Caucasians are more prone to contract HIV of types other than type B, and that African Blacks are even at higher risk of doing so.... The reasons for it are not known, and many people (myself included) find it baffling."

It is not baffling at all. HIV is contracted not just through certain forms of sex, but through intravenous drug use as well. Minorities have a higher rate of such drug use - hence a higher HIV rate among heterosexuals. This is all laid out in Fumento's book in convincing fashion.

Since you yourself admit that you can not answer many of the questions posed in my posts, perhaps you need to reread Fumento with a more open mind. The statistics have only confirmed his predictions made over a decade ago.

To Allen Mercy: The website for the Adult Industry Medical Healthcare Foundation I believe is http://www.aim-med.org/

To Shenanigans: "This is such a load of homophobic shit. Since when is anal sex not a "traditional heterosexual behaviour"?"

I only used the phrase "traditional heterosexual behavior" to describe genital-to-genital contact since that is what immediately comes to the mind's of most people when describing heterosexual sex. I did not mean to imply any moral subtext in that phrase. If it will make you happy, I will simply use the phrase "genital-to-genital" sex in the future. Ok?

In fact, I am confident that I made no such moral implications, but it is rather you that has unjustifiably inferred them. So your false charge of homophobia is typical of the hysterical groups that falsely accused Michael Fumento of the same thing for simply reporting the facts. When the facts don't jive with a certain group's point of view, they simply condemn the facts rather than reassess their thinking.

"And what's with all this prurient 'I don't want to get more explicit' bullshit? Does anyone here believe this guy doesn't watch porn?

I chose not to be explicit on this post since I am a guest blogger on this site that who I happen to know is a Catholic who has a young daughter and I simply thought it prudent to err on the side of caution out of respect for her. For all I know, maybe she doesn't care. But until I start my own blog, I will take into consideration the fact that she might not want the site to overloaded with explicit porn chat.

I never said that I have never watched adult films (except in an obvious joking manner in my original post). But I wrote a brief aside to say that I don't watch a whole lot of it when compared to many of my single male friends simply as a lighthearted reference to the fact that 3 of my recent posts dealt with sexual matters and that the regular readers of this blog shouldn't expect it to step away from political posts in order to evolve into a site exclusively devoted to porn.

If it makes you feel better, by all means go ahead and assume that I am a porn addict. It won't affect me in the slightest and it won't have any bearings on the facts or my arguments in this matter.

Posted by: Justin Levine at April 21, 2004 10:58 PM (Permalink)

Please forgive the few spelling errors in my last post above. Was typing in a hurry and neglected to spell check....

Posted by: Justin Levine at April 21, 2004 11:04 PM (Permalink)

For Justine Levine in response to your blog of April 21: Thanks for setting some of those inane comments of the mis-informed straight.

Now that this situation that has hit the adult film industry has been exposed - again - will anything good come from it?

Thank you for addressing my question about what will be done over time for those infected, and affected, by exposure to HIV in the adualt film industry. What is needed now is a forum with teeth that will keep the need for aftercare of those infected.

As you highlighted in your blog it is also my hope that some one becomes a defender for Ms. Roxx's future needs - may that be legal, emotional, medical, financial, or a combination of all the aforementioned. Mr. James as well. There is more to be heard from this incident as time plods on.

I like to watch porn. I won't lie about that.

However, I have had close exposure to the results that HIV and the oportunistic diseases it promotes, has had on people I know, and care for.

The time when such news items elicit meager response and re-enforcing of "negative stereotypes" has to end. Let it be here, and let it be now. The clock is indeed ticking.

Posted by: Gregory A. Pierson, BSW at April 23, 2004 10:18 AM (Permalink)

This Lara Roxx (or whatever her name is) has a lot of nerve if you ask me. In the comments I've read she very much trys to portray herself as a helpless victim in this. Give me a break! Checkout the following contradiction
“When I first walked into Daniel Perrault’s office, I told him what I was ready to do, and he told me he wasn’t ready to represent me under those conditions,” Roxx stated on April 16. “I told him I wasn’t interested in anal at all, and I was a little freaky about the no-condom thing, too. I’m educated about the STDs since I’m in grade 3. I was educated about condoms. I knew I didn’t want any STDs. I was protecting myself in the proper ways to not catch STDs, the ways I was taught.

She wasn't interested in anal or unprotected sex (because she knows better) yet proceeds to do unprotected double anal? Am I missing something? Obviously all she cared about was the money. I'm quite sure nobody put a gun to her head and forced her to do the scene. She could have made a choice to go back to stripping or do something totally different yet she wants to depict herself as being exploited. Enough on that. Regarding Darren James. Last night I rewatched a movie called "Big Butt Brazilian Orgies" with him and TT Boy and others that was filmed in Rio. In the "behind the scenes" portion of the DVD they are interviewing the female talent. One of the questions asked was how many guys they had slept with. Now get this...each girl said at least 1,000. One said 2,500! These ladies varied between 19 and 22 years old. You don't have to be a math wiz to say "damn, it might be a good idea to wear a rubber on this trip" Like someone said above, all these ladies are prostitutes at Rio termas and regularly engage in all kinds of risky sexual activites. Warts, herpes, hepatitis, TB, and all the rest are very much alive inside these termas. Truthfully, I wouldn't be surprised if a new breed of disease evolved from all of this recklessness possibly more devastating than AIDS. I agree with Rodney Moore's statement about banning anal cream pies. I mean enough is enough. That along with ATM bothers me personally and can't be healthy. As long as the talent is stupid enough to go along there will be no limits. They need to think about the repercussions beforehand. Not accuse producers of being exploitive after the fact. Anyway, that's just my .02 and I'm in no way involved with the industry other than to view movies on occasion. Bottom line..they knew the job was dangerous when they took it and if you play with fire, you're bound to get burned.

Posted by: Rafael at May 2, 2004 04:49 PM (Permalink)

As a black male I too questioned Fumento's data then I reread the aforementioned quote about the risk minorities are exposed to. And he was correct, the factors that put minorities at risk needle sharing and carriers of other std's that facilitate the spread of hiv are significant and cannot be discounted. The african american community is burying their heads in the sand when they conviently ignore the many homosexual males in and out of the closet. Yes there is a epidemic outbreak of heterosexual hiv transmission, there are many black men living double lives. They are having sex with men and portraying to the public as hetersexuals meanwhile they are having sex with unsuspecting women.This is why there is such an unfathomable explosion of hiv cases among black women.

Posted by: gee at May 6, 2004 10:02 AM (Permalink)

I would like to add a comment. I neither am highly educated regarding sex nor the transmission of AIDS (untill today). I have lived in Brazil and have known brazilian "garotas de programma", prostitutes. I also have met some o their customers, none of whom (unless they were from another country) would even consider approaching the woman for sex without a condom. Perhaps they are uninformed about the route of transmission, but in general, it seemed, very aware of the prevelance of aids, (and a host of other stds and *problemas sexuais*).
I am guilty of supporting an american film industry (albeit infrequently) that does ecourage high risk behavior. I do not believe that gayness is perverse, nor scary, nor "wrong" in a libertarian sense.

That being said, let me continue regarding the particular case at hand: Some who would claim to be heterosexual when doing acts on film that are not heterosexual gives us a hint what we are facing. To me, engaging in group sex involving partners of the same sex is a gay or lesbian act, unless the participation of same sex partners is only vouerism. Certainly a man who on film inserts his member in any (location), while another man knowingling and with concordance places his (member) alonside, no longer has claim to being solely heterosexual, he is indeed bisexual and or gay and would be better off admiting his tendancy, for the sake of all. If this particular porn star says he is not bisexual, I know that either I am highly confused/elitist/supremacist/labeler or it is a lie I am hearing. Its much clearer than the evidence coming out of the prison in Iraq, that something is just out of place....!

If he continues to say indeed that he has never given anybody a candy bar himself (I hope that is seen as humor), I could find a reasonable cause to doubt that as well. I said reasonable cause. Again, I think we would have to look closely at his behaviour and our impression of his first statement.

As to those who are involved in vourism of these high risk acts, think about what you are promoting, you have read the blog, you are informed. I can no longer claim ignorance. There are some very valuable comments here. Each purchase of a tape depicting high risk behavior is a vote in favor of high risk behavior. I thank the inteligent informative posts, but I caution those who post to the blog to think about the audience. Let us try to be better informed, and better off as a society. I apologize if I have labeled anybody, who had heretofore been felt unlabeled, and I encourage you to respond intelligently if I have some more learning to do. I am sure there are many who have performed these acts which would like to retain thier bisexual cherry. But I cannot buy it, or I am misinformed. I remind all that I am libertarian. But I dont think one has the liberty to knowingly place others at risk. I believe this man should step forward if he can educate us, porn star or not. Gay or not. I think he will need to explain his past behavior one day to someone. I will not go beyond that. Judgement and jurisdiction is not mine.

I discourage all from what has been shown today by thourough investigation to be true and revealed to us today and encourage all to avoid high risk behaviours.

Posted by: scott at May 8, 2004 10:20 AM (Permalink)

It seems to be coming up a lot, here and other places, that Darren James transmitted AIDS. He did not transmit AIDS, but HIV. It was said in the first paragraph of this discussion...

"but I think its time to weigh in on the reported cases of AIDS that have recently cropped up in the adult film industry."

No cases of AIDS have cropped up from these people. They are HIV positive and going to live to nearly normal age. An example of this misunderstanding is stated by Gia Paloma questioning "Is $1600 really worth cutting my life by 50 years?" The answer is no, Gia, and no one will be doing that anyway.

Finally, I don't understand why the industry has ground to a halt, allegedly RUINING people financially, when they could simply buy condoms and use them in the films. Are the actors going to resume normal, barebacking activities after the quarentines are finished? Seems a bit short-sighted.

Posted by: Jeff at May 8, 2004 08:24 PM (Permalink)

It seems that people are a little out of date on the testing aspect.

It was true as recently as 10 years ago that it took 3-6 months for tests to be accurate. This was because tests didn't check for the virus itself, but for the antibodies, which take time and vary from person to person to build up to a level that can be detected.

Today, using "NAD" testing (the same the Red Cross uses for blood doners), accuracy of tests are assured after 14-18 days. So the "latency" period has dropped from 3 months to about 3 weeks today. With a NAD test after 21 days (and most public testing facilities state 28 days to give an added measure), you have 100% accuracy of the test, which is a direct detection of the virus (it uses the same technology that is used for gene mapping).

This is why the blood supply is considered to be "safe".

So let's stop talking about the virus "hiding" for months or years (which is also discounted) or 3-6 month test periods, which is hopelessly out of date. See www.thebody.com for more info on this and other aspects of the disease.

Posted by: whatever at May 9, 2004 08:02 PM (Permalink)

Jeff has a fair point that is worth commenting on:

HIV causes a weakening of the immune system.

When the weakening of the immune system reaches a certain point, it only then designated as "AIDS".

The point when a HIV+ status becomes "AIDS" was somewhat arbitrarily decided back when AIDS first appeared - but doctors had to draw the line somewhere.

Because HIV eventually causes AIDS, some people (including myself in the original post), use the terms "HIV" and "AIDS" interchangeably as a form of shorthand.

However, since medical advancements have been able to substantially delay the onset of AIDS after the initial HIV infection, such shorthand speech may admittedly be less justified.

In the early days, HIV would cause AIDS within just a few short years of infection.

Now, it is unclear just how long people can go on living with HIV. Though people like Magic Johnson have obviously been living with it for well over a decade now with no sign of it on the horizon for them.

Bear in mind though that Johnson has access to (and can afford) the best medical care that money can buy.

Your average porn star doesn't make that kind of money, so its unclear if they will have access to the same treatment. Consequently, its also unclear if they will be able to successfully cope with HIV for the same length of time.

None of this alters the basic facts or analysis of my original post (how HIV is specifically transmitted, what the porn industry needs to do to protect itself, etc.), but Jeff's distinction between HIV and AIDS is well taken.

I also agree with Whatever's observation of modern testing techniques.

I am not as familiar with the specifics as he (she?) seems to be, but I do know that modern testing advancements have significantly cut down on the time needed to assure an accurate test result.

Posted by: Justin Levine at May 11, 2004 12:43 AM (Permalink)

I shouldn't even bother responding to you, but here it goes.

I have read Mr. Fumento's book, and unlike him I have a background in the medical sciences. I can tell you he does posit the theory that minority groups in the USA have a higher rate of homosexuality, and that _without any sort of scientific support_.

You do the same with your hypothesis that most IV drug consumption occurs among those groups. That is not true. Most HIV infection by IVDU occurs in those groups, but that is caused by the higher infectivity HIV has among minorities.

You're thinking the other way around: more Blacks and Mexicans get infected because more of them are shooting smack. That is not supported by the data. The raw numbers show that many more whites are doing heroin. The fact is that many more minorities get infected because of needle re-use (more common among poorer groups) and a higher propensity to contract the virus.

Since it seems you have no idea how to search for that data yourself, I'll give you a couple of articles to think about, if you can get over your own prejudices (which I doubt):

Genes and Immunity, June 2003, Volume 4, Number 4, Pages 245-250. Genetic influence of CXCR6 chemokine receptor alleles on PCP-mediated AIDS progression among African Americans

http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage.taf?file=/gene/journal/v4/n4/abs/6363950a.html&dynoptions=doi1084279197

In other words, the HIV virus finds an open door thanks to a protein that is fairly commong among African Americans (44%), less so among Hispanics (20%) and practically non-existant in Caucasians, and thanks to it, it can more easily progress to AIDS and kill the patient.

Journal of Virology, December 1999, p. 10264-10271, Vol. 73, No. 12. A Polymorphism in the Regulatory Region of the CC-Chemokine Receptor 5 Gene Influences Perinatal Transmission of Human Immunodeficiency Virus Type 1 to African-American Infants

http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/content/full/73/12/10264?view=full&pmid=10559343

That explains why most cases of HIV transmission mother-child happen among African Americans. The CCR5-59356-T is like a magnet that attract the virus from the mother. That magnet is practically only found among African Americans.

Lancet. 1998 May 30;351(9116):1632-3. CCR2-64I allele and genotype association with delayed AIDS progression in African women. University of Nairobi Collaboration for HIV Research.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9620723

The article shows a longer latency period with high infectivity among African women, which means they can more easily transmit it to a man through heterosexual contact.

Nat Med. 1996 Nov;2(11):1240-3. The role of a mutant CCR5 allele in HIV-1 transmission and disease progression.

This article shows how _infection_ itself is made more likely in those who have the CCR5P1genotype, which is common among African Americans, less so among Hispanics and practically non-existent among Caucasians (see above).

Now that the news are out that Mr. James very likely contracted the HIV from Bianca Biaggi in Brazil (that is, a man got it from a woman), how does that fit with your vision of the world? Or, as a journalist wannabe, you won't even want to learn about what you're talking about because you already know everything there is to know about it?

Sahid Himbaij, Biochemist.

Posted by: himbaij at May 11, 2004 06:03 AM (Permalink)

The poster Sahid Himbaij has the same last name as a previous poster simply known as "Himbaij". Himbaij has an e-mail of himbaij30@yahoo.com while "Sahid Himbaij" has an e-mail of himbaij@yahoo.com. It is probably safe to assume that they are the same person (my apologies if this assumption is incorrect though).

Himbaij uses a rhetoric style that is typical among those who are uncomfortable with certain facts. But since he mistakenly assumes that his medical credentials should somehow intimidate me, I will be glad to debate him on the merits below in the continued quest for the truth:

I have read Mr. Fumento's book, and unlike him I have a background in the medical sciences.

I will repeat what I stated in the response to Himbaij's original post -

I have read Mr. Fumento's book, and unlike him I have a background in the medical sciences. This is pure condescension on your part. Once again, journalists often have little training in the subjects they cover. That doesn't make their reporting less valid. Most journalists covering war have never been in combat. Most journalists covering business issues have never run a business. Most reporting on legal cases don't have law degrees. And none of these people need to have these backgrounds. When you support your arguments and conclusions with facts that are easily verifiable, then having such "qualifications" is irrelevant in the world of journalism as long as you have basic honesty.

I can tell you he does posit the theory that minority groups in the USA have a higher rate of homosexuality, and that _without any sort of scientific support_.

Again, I too have read the book and I do not remember any such claim by Fumento. Can you cite me the page number (or at least the chapter?). What I do recall is Fumento pointing out that homosexuality is more taboo in minority cultures (which is true) and as a result, the number of cases related to homosexuality among minorities might be greater than actually reported due to the fact that many of them are still "in the closet". That is a far cry from saying minority groups in the USA have a higher rate of homosexuality than Caucasians as you wrongly claim that Fumento supposedly writes.

You're thinking the other way around: more Blacks and Mexicans get infected because more of them are shooting smack. That is not supported by the data. The raw numbers show that many more whites are doing heroin. The fact is that many more minorities get infected because of needle re-use (more common among poorer groups) and a higher propensity to contract the virus.

Which data are you referring to? Can you provide a link? The raw numbers might show higher heroin use among whites, but that is only because there are many more whites than there are minorities. As I clearly stated in my previous post, minorities have a much higher per capita rate of heroin use. Your deliberate attempt to ignore this aspect of my post shows an intense degree of intellectual dishonesty on your part.

Even if we lived in a fantasy world where you can believe that whites have a higher per capita rate of intravenous drug use, that would not change the Fumento's basic claim one iota: that HIV/AIDS will not widely break out in the heterosexual population as a result specifically from heterosexual intercourse.

People who happen to be heterosexual might still get HIV/AIDS through drug use or anal sex, but not through heterosexual practices - and it is important to specify how people get HIV/AIDS if communities such as the adult film industry are going to prevent such outbreaks in the future.

I have attempted to read all of the sources that you cite.

Regretfully, only the abstracts of the articles are provided on most of the sites you give. Do you have links to the actual articles themselves (such that I don't have to pay to download them?)

The only full article that was available was found at http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/content/full/73/12/10264?view=full&pmid=10559343 which deals only with the transmission of HIV from mothers to infants (not particularly relevant to the HIV scare in the porn world I am afraid. Nice try though.)

I also noticed that you linked to articles that are quite heavy on the technical jargon. Don't think that this will intimidate me (though it's fair to say that this was clearly your intention in linking to these sites. I invite everyone to look at the links and judge for yourself how Himbaij attempts to "debate"). I will be happy to take the time read and understand them if they are provided to me in their full form. Though if you have other links that translate these articles into a more standard reporting style, I think it would help others join in the debate and make up their own minds. It's up to you if you wish to hide behind medical formulas though.

Though you have attempted to provide your "facts", let me now provide my own.

This is admittedly anecdotal and not "scientific", but I think it speaks volumes.

Check out the latest HIV results from all the adult performers who had sex with "patient zero" Darren James (First Generation) and all of those who they in turn had sex with (Second Generation)

http://www.aim-med.org/Quarantine.html

There are no, I repeat, NO HIV infections among anyone in the Second Generation group.

Among the First Generation, three women have now tested HIV positive. Two of whom (Lara Roxxx and Miss Arroyo) have admitted performing "double-anal" sex with James

(http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary_Navigation=Articles&Action=View_Article&Content_ID=83034)

It has not yet been reported what kind of sexual acts the third performer, Jessica Dee, had with James. But would you care to wage money that she had anal sex with him?

This all clearly supports Fumento's claim. If HIV is supposedly easily transmitted through unprotected heterosexual sex acts, then why aren't the majority of the First Generation performers infected? Why then in turn aren't there ANY Second Generation performers infected from them??? Why hasn't Lara Roxxx infected anyone that she had sex with since being exposed????

My original post states: "And as long as Roxxx isn't an intravenous drug user, she is unlikely to pass her infection along to anyone else - even if no condoms are used.

The only others likely at risk right now are other female performers who engaged specifically in anal sex with James.

I am certain that my theory will be borne out in this story as the weeks go by and more tests are conducted on performers."

I hate to say I told you so....but that facts have proven me correct.

Himbaij, you write: Now that the news are out that Mr. James very likely contracted the HIV from Bianca Biaggi in Brazil (that is, a man got it from a woman), how does that fit with your vision of the world?

A few points on this claim - It has still not been proven that Biaggi is the source, but you are right in that she is the woman widely suspected as being the source. AVN.com reports the following: "Sources inform AVN.com that Bianca Biaggi has been identified as the Brazilian native that Darren James is believed to have caught the HIV virus from. The same sources report that Biaggi is currently being sought so that she may be tested for HIV. It is not yet clear how she has been determined to be the person who may have infected James. "
(emphasis mine)
(From - http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary_Navigation=Articles&Action=View_Article&Content_ID=82667)

So the bottom line is, we don't know what types of activity she engaged in with James that might have transmitted the virus. Assuming Biaggi is proven to be the source - perhaps she shared needles with James? Perhaps she had sex with multiple male partners right before James and thus James contracted HIV from the infected semen of another male partner? Both scenarios (drug use and multilple partners at once) are quite common in the adult film world. It is vital to find out and specify the kinds of behaviors taking place that lead to HIV transmission rather than just say its "unprotected" heterosexual sex which completely distorts how the virus spreads.

In your first post, you call Fumento (and by extension, supporters of his research such as myself) "White Supremacists". So we already know the kind of rhetorical nonsense that you are capable of. I would think that a "scientist" such as yourself would be able to debate the merits in more rational manner. But perhaps you are scared to admit that even scientists have political agendas and get mad when the facts stand in the way of such agendas.

You also wrote in your first post, "It seems, somehow, that non-Caucasians are more prone to contract HIV of types other than type B, and that African Blacks are even at higher risk of doing so. I suggest you go over to PubMed and do a little research on this. The reasons for it are not known, and many people (myself included) find it baffling.

So you yourself admit that you don't know the answers...yet you accuse me of not researching the facts. Very despicable of you indeed Himbaij.

The first words of your latest post were I shouldn't even bother responding to you...

That doesn't surprise me. Why would you want to respond to someone who has beaten you on the facts and has the ability to debate with a much higher degree of class?

I welcome everyone to read both of our respective posts, check out our links and decide for yourself. But don't let Himbaij's label as a "biochemist" prevent you from discovering the facts since he clearly has his own agenda.

I don't know exactly what that agenda is, but it sure isn't telling people the complete story about how HIV is transmitted...

Posted by: Justin Levine at May 11, 2004 01:54 PM (Permalink)

Hi Justin.

Three of the four articles I linked were full-text, completely accessible even to non-subscribers. You need to find the link to the PDF file. They're not abstruse in the least, it's the sort of literature we have to deal with every day. There is, simply put, no way to transmit these concepts in an accurate way using layman's terminology.

What all current research shows (and there are dozens of articles out there, unfortunately none of them at or below the grade 12 reading level) is:

- AIDS comes as a result from HIV infection at different rates in different people. People with compromised immunity are more likely to develop AIDS symptoms before those with a better immune system.

- AIDS develops much more quickly among Africans and African Americans, killing them much faster than it kills other groups. This cannot be accounted for by lack of nutrition, since it happens even in our country and with those belonging to the middle and lower-middle class.

- AIDS can be much more easily transmited from women to men among non-Caucasian ethnicities because of protein variations in these populations. This is true of diverse cytokines. Humans overall are biochemically similar, with an exception: cytokines, proteins that are part of the immune system, vary greatly in their allele distribution in the world. Why? Because tropical populations had to face the threat of many more infections than non-tropical ones. Unfortunately, it's just these mutations the ones that make acquiring AIDS a lot easier for these populations.

- Two of the examined proteins are the CC chemokine receptor 5 and CxC chemokine receptor 6. They make two things easier: passage of virus from mother to child; and passage of virus from woman to man.

- The presence of the alleles that cause easier infection by HIV (59356-T and E3K) correspond directly to the prevalence of HIV+ among the populations: very high among Africans and African Americans, lower among South East Asians, Amerindians and Hispanics, vey low among Caucasians.

- These results point to two things:
1) Mother-fetus infection and woman-to-man infection are much more likely among non-Caucasians.
2) Certain varieties of the HIV virus are more likely to be contracted by non-Caucasian populations, while Caucasian populations are virtually immune to them.

- Finally, the varieties more likely to be contracted by non-Caucasian populations have a longer incubation time in women, before any signs of AIDS are made manifest, hence these women can have a very high viral count and make transmission to a male partner much more likely (as seen in sub-Saharan Africa).

I just tried for the full text articles using my home account and you're right, only one of them is free. Using my work account, I can access the three that had an online version. I'm afraid I cannot provide with a copy, since doing so goes against copyright laws. With the references given, you can search for them yourself in a library, or buy them online.

Yes, I'm the same person but my other account got filled with spam. The same is happening to this one too, I'm afraid.

If a message should be given out of all this, I'd say: non-Caucasians, in particular people of African ancestry, should be more careful who they sleep with, even if they're totally heterosexual in behaviour. They're more likely to contract HIV by having straight sex than any other group in the planet. And HIV often means a death sentence for them.

Sahid Himbaij, Biochemist.

Posted by: himbaij at May 13, 2004 04:44 AM (Permalink)

Hi Justin

I have actually just returned from a vacation inThailand where i should admit to sleeping with about 20 different womenover the course of the month.i mostly used condoms but had one occaion wher the condom broke and another where the girl in question got on me before i had one on. I had anal sexwith two fof them but was wearing a condom. I am now having a bit of a guilt trip about my long term girlfriend here in the UK who has no idea I was in Thailand, as i toild her i was in Singapore on buisness. I am going to get an hiv test . Just want your opinion do you think I am at geat risk? I am a white middle aged hetrosexual male?

Posted by: Ryaymond at May 13, 2004 10:26 AM (Permalink)

Himbaij's latest comments have quite a few contradictions, but at least I have got him to be more civil in his discussions (or perhaps he still believes that I am a "White Supremicist" for admiring Fumento's research on ADIS?)

Now that I have been vindicated in my claim that 3 of the 4 articles only appear on pay sites, let's address the substance of the post:

"[The Articles are] not abstruse in the least, it's the sort of literature we have to deal with every day....There is, simply put, no way to transmit these concepts in an accurate way using layman's terminology... unfortunately none of them at or below the grade 12 reading level)"

This is typical condesention from people with advanced degrees who don't wish to debate the issues.

It is the equivalent of my saying, "You wouldn't understand the meaning of this court decision. You need a law degree to understand 'the issues' here. I'm a lawyer, so just take it from me, I'm right. You don't have a law degree and thus don't understand the terminology. So you can just shut-up, go away, and assume that I have won this arugemt..."

I don't ask for something "at or below the 12 grade reading level" as you put it. I'll settle for articles geared towards college graduates. But this has nothing to do with "reading levels". It is about hiding behind specialized terminology geared towards specialized education that could no doubt be easily explained to other people if you "biochemists" weren't too lazy to do so.

I can easily explain to non-lawyers what the 11th Amendment and Ex Parte Young principles are - so expect the scientific community to be able to do the same with their literature. In fact, lawyers who handle cases regarding AIDS discrimination, medical patents, and medical malpractice deal with your kind of literature all the time. Somebody must be explaining these concepts to them.

Hell, even after proclaiming that they can't be put into "layman's terminology" you start to do just that with the summaries of the conclusions of each of the paper's that you posted. Proof enough that it can be put into laymen's terms.

So now let's move on to the substance of the paper's conclusions as you describe them in your latest post -

"- AIDS comes as a result from HIV infection at different rates in different people. People with compromised immunity are more likely to develop AIDS symptoms before those with a better immune system.

- AIDS develops much more quickly among Africans and African Americans, killing them much faster than it kills other groups. This cannot be accounted for by lack of nutrition, since it happens even in our country and with those belonging to the middle and lower-middle class."

This is common knowledge to anyone who has done fundamental research on AIDS statistics. I hardly need to pay for a scientific article to tell me this.

"- AIDS can be much more easily transmited from women to men among non-Caucasian ethnicities because of protein variations in these populations. This is true of diverse cytokines. Humans overall are biochemically similar, with an exception: cytokines, proteins that are part of the immune system, vary greatly in their allele distribution in the world. Why? Because tropical populations had to face the threat of many more infections than non-tropical ones. Unfortunately, it's just these mutations the ones that make acquiring AIDS a lot easier for these populations."

So what you are saying is that overall AIDS is more easily transmitted among African-Americans. Right? Therefore, two African-Amrican homosexuals are more likely to infect each other than two Caucasian homosexuals (if the article you cite is true). it should also stand to reason then that non-anal, heterosexual sex between African-American partners is still much safer than anal-sex between heterosexual partners.

This does absolutely nothing to rebut Michael Fumento's conclusions or any of my arguments on this thread

"Certain varieties of the HIV virus are more likely to be contracted by non-Caucasian populations, while Caucasian populations are virtually immune to them....

If a message should be given out of all this, I'd say: non-Caucasians, in particular people of African ancestry, should be more careful who they sleep with, even if they're totally heterosexual in behaviour. They're more likely to contract HIV by having straight sex than any other group in the planet."

Let me get this straight, you accuse Fumento and me of being "White Supremecists" and then you post this?????

Your conclusions may happen be right scientifically, but to admit that there is a component to AIDS and then assail others or pointing out the descrepency in AIDS statics by calling them White Supremecists is nothing short of outrageous.

"They're [African-Americans] more likely to contract HIV by having straight sex than any other group in the planet. "

Perhaps, but African-Americans having straight sex is still far less risky than African-Americans having anal sex, or African-Americans using intravenous drugs. Does any of your profound scientific literature contradict this statement?

If not, then you cannot criticize either Fumento or myself for speaking the truth.

At this point, I think it might also be helpful to point out a few statement by the U.S. Center for Disease Control on this very topic.

Check it out at http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/facts/afam.htm

Among their own assertions:

"The leading cause of HIV infection among African-American men is sexual contact with other men, followed by injection drug use..."

Race and ethnicity are not, themselves, risk factors for HIV infection. However, African Americans are more likely to face challenges associated with risk for HIV infection, including:

Poverty. Nearly one in four African Americans lives in poverty. Studies have found a direct relationship between higher AIDS incidence and lower income. A variety of socioeconomic problems associated with poverty directly or indirectly increase HIV risks, including limited access to quality health care and HIV prevention education.

Denial. Although African Americans are responding to the HIV/AIDS crisis in their communities, many have been slow to join the effort. One reason is that some African Americans are reluctant to acknowledge issues, such as homosexuality and drug use, that are associated with HIV infection. For example, studies show that a significant number of African-American men who have sex with men identify themselves as heterosexual. As a result, they may not relate to prevention messages crafted for openly gay men. Without frank and open discussion of HIV risks, many African Americans will not get the information and support they need to protect themselves and their partners from HIV.

Partners at Risk. African American women are most likely to be infected with HIV as a result of sex with men. They may not be aware of their male partners’ possible risks for HIV infection such as unprotected sex with multiple partners, bisexuality, or injection drug use. Women who suspect that their partners are at risk for HIV infection may be reluctant to try to negotiate condom use. For example, some women may not insist on condom use out of fear that the man will leave them or withdraw financial support.

Substance Abuse. Injection drug use is the second leading cause of HIV infection for both African-American men and women. But sharing needles is not the only HIV risk related to substance abuse. Both casual and chronic substance abusers are more likely to engage in high-risk behaviors, such as unprotected sex, when they are under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

Sexually Transmitted Disease (STD) Connection. For many of the reasons noted above, African Americans also have the highest STD rates in the nation. Compared to whites, African Americans are 24 times more likely to have gonorrhea and 8 times more likely to have syphilis. In part because of physical changes caused by STDs, including genital lesions that can serve as an entry point for HIV, the presence of certain STDs can increase the chances of contracting HIV by three- to five-fold. Similarly, because co-infection with HIV and another STD can cause increased HIV shedding, a person who is co-infected has a greater chance of spreading HIV to others.

Most of the bold emphasis in the above quote is my own. The CDC seems to back up many of my (and Fumento's) own assertions that you seemed to have disputed and nowhere on their cite does it make mention of a genetic component. In fact, it specifically states, "Race and ethnicity are not, themselves, risk factors for HIV infection."

So which is it Himbaij?? Or are the CDC a buch of "White Supremecists" too?

I don't discount the possibility that the CDC might be ignoring the research you cite out of concerns for political correctness. But once again, it does nothing to rebut ANYTHING that Fumento has said or what I have argued in this post, and ultimately has little to do with the problem in the porn world which is what we are talking about here.

The net result of your posts is to simply call people names becuase they offer facts that are at odds with your political (not scientific) view of the world and have done little to enlighten people about this issue as a "scientist" properly should.

Posted by: Justin Levine at May 14, 2004 01:35 PM (Permalink)

Ryaymond,

Don't know if your post is true or not, but am willing to entertain it as a hypothetical in any event.

The term "great risk" is relative in this context. Your behavior is certainly far less risky than if you had homosexual sex with Thai prostitutes or shared needles with them. But it is still risky enough such that you should probably be tested at least.

A few general comments also:

Anal sex is extra risky to the one who is the "receptor" so to speak, not the one who is "delivering". So your instance of anal sex is probably no more risky than genital-to-gential sex, though I doubt any specific studies exist on that particular question.

Beyond that, it's impossible to quantify your exact risk since I would need to know much more about you and the girls you were with. Have they done drugs with needles? Have they had blood transfusions? In which countries and with what medical systems? Do they have any other STD's? etc.

The same questions need to be posed to you as well.

Thailand has had a pretty good success rate in lowering AIDS cases, but their sex workers remain infected at rates that are quite high.

Bottom line is that you should be tested in order to be sure.

For more info, check out http://www.avert.org/aidsthai.htm

Posted by: Justin Levine at May 14, 2004 01:52 PM (Permalink)

ITs all Bush's fault. The scumbag has billions to invade other countries but nothing to stop the spread of hiv and other preventable diseases in the US and Latin American World. If condoms were freely available and the porn industry required its actors to wear condoms we wouldn't have so many problems. Bush is doing nothing to sto the needle users who are big pushers of the hiv virus. He just leaves them stranded on the streets with no hopes and a feeling of helplessness. Bush and his evangelistic friends are all hypocrites.

Posted by: mike at May 30, 2004 09:01 PM (Permalink)

Mike:

Your comments are simply an ignorant political diatribe. This is confirmed by that fact that you fail to mention the record amount of money that Bush has earmarked to fight AIDS in Africa (tens of billions I believe the figure is).

Posted by: Justin Levine at May 30, 2004 11:34 PM (Permalink)

No offense, Justin, but there is some truth to what Mike said. Bush has failed this country, for the most part, in my humble opinion...

However, we aren't talking politics here. AIDS has the potential to affect everyone. No one is infallible. Many valid points have been made here. I feel for Darren James & Lara Roxx. They certainly did engage in extremely high-risk behavior, but it is their own fault. They are the ones suffering, who will die a slow painful death. They do not deserve our judgement because Judgement Day has already arrived for them.

There is no doubt in my mind that unprotected anal sex & creampies are the #1 cause of HIV/AIDS among porn stars. When coupled with IV drug use, the risk increases. However, Justin was correct in saying that unprotected anal sex is an extremely unsafe practice. The anus & rectum are thin linings...the bloodstream is more accessible through this type of activity.

I am a woman who worked in the adult film industry for nearly 14 years. I quit because my health & safety were far more important to me than the money. I had a reputation for being "difficult" because I refused to have anal sex or do creampie scenes. I had seen firsthand what happened to many of my co-stars & other people as a result of that...I didn't want to be next. I remained disease-free & healthy, mostly because I took responsibility for myself & refused to let people in the business bullshit me. The reality is this: it's a very corrupt industry, not at all sexy when you get behind the scenes. Most adult film stars are not treated as real people with feelings because we're "fantasies." And producers/directors hated me because I stood up for myself. It pisses them off when somebody sheds light on their denial. I knew that condoms weren't compulsory, that testing was infrequent & unreliable. So I decided that if I was going to do this, I would protect myself since other people were too greedy & cutthroat to look out for me. I had frequent tests at the doctor. I refused anal sex & cumshots near my anus. I was extremely careful about my habits & practices off the set.

It saddens me to know about the number of people who have been claimed by AIDS. Many of them are still unknown. My older sister died of AIDS in 1994. She was 40 years old. She had been a prostitute since her early 20's, and a drug addict. She died leaving two young boys without their mother. She used cocaine, never intravenously, but she admitted to having had unprotected anal intercourse many times. Many people are quick to say, "She died of AIDS & look at you...you did films!" While that is certainly true, I will maintain that in my years as a film star, I NEVER engaged in the sort of high-risk behavior that is so prevalent in the industry. And that's the truth. The only real risks I took involved unprotected oral & vaginal intercourse. Other than that...no anal, no drugs, nothing perverse or deviant in my personal life. I was a healthy young woman, no STD's, drug/alcohol free, non-smoking. Had I succumbed to pressures & caved to the demands of others in the business...more than likely I would be suffering the consequences & ill effects today.

My advice to those who have not been affected by HIV personally: Please have some awareness for your own health, and for the safety of others. Whether you are male or female, gay, straight, or bi. AIDS does not discriminate. All this nonsense about black, white, etc. is ridiculous. A white person can be easily infected too...it is a matter of his/her sexual practices & whether or not he/she uses drugs. It does not have a particular look, type, or color. Everyone should feel free to enjoy/indulge a healthy sexual appetite...while also being aware that this is now 2004, not 1989. We have more options & we can either do it the safe way...or we can learn the hard, tragic way. Please protect yourselves, other people simply care too much about their own pleasure to worry about you. I assume most of you here are male, but this advice is intended for you too. Protect yourselves, do not engage in high-risk behaviors that will ultimately expose you (or others, if you are HIV+) to this disease. It is horrible...my sister passed away in the AIDS ward of a New York hospital, weighing 76 lbs. at her death, vomiting blood, later cremated because my mother couldn't stand to see her that way.

Posted by: anonymous at June 3, 2004 08:28 PM (Permalink)

The previous poster has some good heartfelt comments buried in her post, but they are wrapped around the most inane, inaccurate (and frankly, stupid) clichés that they end up canceling each other out such that its difficult to absorb the good elements.

The main problem is the first 5 sentences of her post. Let’s dissect them, shall we?

No offense, Justin, but there is some truth to what Mike said. Bush has failed this country, for the most part, in my humble opinion....However, we aren't talking politics here.

This is a typical cheap shot that is used by cowards. You start off by making an overtly political statement and then claim that “we aren’t talking politics here” in a clumsy way of trying to cut off responses and debate to the statement.

Perhaps you are afraid of such a debate because you know that you won’t be able to back up your position?

It is unclear if she refers to a general failing of the Bush administration, or specifically a failing of AIDS policy.

If it is a criticism of the Bush administration policies in general, then obviously there is no point in responding since this is a post about AIDS. I repeat…this is a post about AIDS. How do you expect a reasonable person to debate topics of the war on terrorism and economic policy during an examination of AIDS policy? Each of those topics should be relegated to separate posts so that they can get the attention that they deserve.

If you are stating that you don’t like the Bush administrations policies on terrorism, economy, and issues A, B & C, then guess what? I really don’t care. I’m here to talk about AIDS and health policy and it is clear that you and Mike have needlessly injected politics into this debate – not me. Changing the subject is typical of many in the AIDS debate and is the reason why it became much more prevalent than it had to in the late 80’s and early 90’s.

That is my response to your unwarranted statement that “Bush has failed this country” in this post IF that was meant as a swipe against the Bush administration in general.

If, on the other hand, the statement was meant to convey specifically that Bush’s AIDS policy has failed this country – then that of course is entirely relevant. But it’s also entirely wrong as an objective factual observation.

HIV/AIDS cases have remained at stable levels in this country since Bush took office. There have been no sharp increases in infections overall. People with HIV continue to live longer and healthier lives in this country than at any other time previously.

Bush of course also committed an unprecedented $15-billion dollars to combat AIDS in Africa despite national deficits and a variety of competing domestic spending priorities.

He did this despite the fact that it alienated many in his political base: http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,57474,00.html?tw=wn_story_related

How can you endorse the ridiculous claim that AIDS is “all Bush’s fault” when you know this?

Let’s take a look at what liberal songwriter/African activist Bob Geldof said about Bush here:

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_785366.html?menu=

“ ‘You'll think I'm off my trolley when I say this, but the Bush administration is the most radical - in a positive sense - in its approach to Africa since Kennedy,’ Geldof told the Guardian.

The Bush administration had proved unexpectedly receptive to appeals for help, Geldof added: ‘You can get the weirdest politicians on your side.’

By contrast, Bill Clinton had not helped Africa much, despite his high-profile visits: ‘Clinton was a good guy, but he did f*** all.’ ”

U2’s Bono also praised Bush’s AIDS policy.

Read about it here: http://launch.yahoo.com/read/news.asp?contentID=212108

Still unconvinced?

Let’s take a look at domestic spending on HIV/AIDS care:

Bush’s 2004 budget contains a request of $16 billion for domestic HIV prevention, care and treatment, a 7 percent increase over 2003. The President also plans a $93 million increase for AIDS research and $100 million to support the AIDS drug assistance program (ADAP).

http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200301311624.shtml

Naturally on an issue of this sort, some people will always say that efforts are not enough and not give the President any credit.

So I pose the question to you directly: In relation to what previous President’s did to fight AIDS, how do you think they were better overall on this issue than Bush?

Let’s take a look at what AIDS specialist, Dr. Steve Morin had to say during the Clinton years:

“Since the Clinton Administration and the Republican Leadership in Congress reached an historic five-year balanced budget agreement last year, the budget outlook for federal AIDS spending has looked rather grim. This budget agreement called for a significant reduction in taxes and major reduction in spending for domestic discretionary programs. In fact, the five-year budget called for a sixteen-percent reduction in spending for public health programs. Under these budget requirements, a freeze in federal AIDS spending over the next five years would be a victory.

AIDS advocates expressed great concern over the budget agreement and were very critical of the Clinton Administration for dropping AIDS as a protected presidential priority in the budget negotiations. In fact, the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS recently expressed concern that "progress in the federal response to AIDS has stalled in recent months, contributing to a sense of diminished priority of AIDS issues in the President's second term." The Council was particularly critical of Administration for its failure to support adequate funding for the ADAP in the last year.”

http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/InSite.jsp?doc=2098.373d

Of course you can agree or disagree about spending priorities of AIDS vs. budget deficit considerations. But even I wouldn’t make a stupid statement like “AIDS is all Clinton’s fault” as you seem to embrace regarding Bush (even though Bush has spent more money on tackling AIDS).

Hell, even Clinton himself “applauded President Bush's new AIDS initiative” while trying to defend his own track record on the issue after it came under criticism from some quarters:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/02/12/judy.desk.clinton.part.two/

But enough of my proof. Where is yours? What figures do you have to suggest that Bush is worse on AIDS than his predecessors? What links do you have?

Or are you just content to write “Bush has failed this country” and not have the guts to back it up?

Now that I gave addressed your silly an unwarranted political statements, let’s tackle your statements on the AIDS issue itself:
“AIDS has the potential to affect everyone…..AIDS does not discriminate.”

These statements are simply wrong. It most certainly does discriminate. To say otherwise is just plain silly.

Even you seem to admit this in other parts of your post (a bit of a contradiction).

Can people who don’t do drugs, get no blood transfusions, and engage in only in genital-to-genital sex get HIV? Theoretically – yes. But that is the equivalent of saying that breast cancer doesn’t discriminate and has the potential to affect everyone, including a 12 year old boy.

Breast cancer can affect a 12-year-old boy. I’m sure if you scour the statistics you can find such cases over the decades. But that doesn’t change the fact that it most certainly discriminates against middle-aged women, and our nation’s health policy should reflect that fact.

To go around saying that male children should be just as aware of breast cancer as middle aged women is simple insanity. The same can be said for straight, non-drug using adults who do not engage in anal sex in regards to HIV issues.

AIDS most definitely discriminates based on behavior. And it indirectly discriminates based on race to the extent that different races/cultures engage in different patterns of such behavior.

These are fundamental realities that many people wish to turn a blind eye to (as is evidenced in these postings).

It’s a pity that you had to lace an otherwise heartfelt post with silly clichés and uncalled for political tantrums. It would have been worth paying attention to otherwise and I think you needlessly turned off a few readers who would have otherwise been receptive to your comments….

Posted by: Justin Levine at June 6, 2004 04:57 PM (Permalink)

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Posted by: deejay at June 13, 2004 06:24 AM (Permalink)

It's been a while since I entered this site to check how well the dialogues are running in regards to
the HIV scare (and I use this term lightly) in the
adult movie industry.

I came back here because since this story has now been all but ignored in the news by those in what is know as polite society. These members of this population may have also sank back to a level of aquiescence over this. It's the luck of the draw.
It won't happen to them! Are they sure?

Since the death of Ronald Reagan I took note of all
the accomplishments, and detrements, of his
administration. Only once did the mention of his
inaction on AIDS come to the fore - on the FOX News Channel - I believe it was on FOX in The
Morning. That was quickly dismissed, and the
topic quickly shifted to IRAN/CONTRA. Does anyone really give a frick over that?? Even now,
no one wants to put this situation into the historical perspective if deserves. "It hasn't happened to me,
so why should I worry about it??" seems to be the attitude of the nation.

Has anyone followed up on Ms. Roxx, Mr. James,
or the woman who is alleged to have infected him in Brazil? Lots of finger pointing - or in this case, fingering - with the intent to muddy the waters on
just what is the greater danger in America today:
HIV/Aids - or general apathy over the issue.

Out of sight - out of mind. Overall, I firmly believe that it would be safer for all of us if we just "wrapped that rascal" - and women should insist that the man they love wear the glove, or at least
set her standards higher than to worry that if
she insists he wear one he will leave. Is that such a bad thing? I feel it is not. It's her body.

Race seems to be the dominate area of discussion now. Some of the comments I read are blitantly slanted. This is not helpful.

Women have the right to keep the Penis out of her Vagina, or her ass. I firmly believe that any woman can refuse to have sex if she feels her mate is not sincere over his "sexual activities". Who is truly faithful today? Can anyone point such a person out? Good luck.

I love women. I just can't get them out of my mind. However, I am very careful of whom I court. I tend to remain faithful - until such time as my partner either grows tired of me, or I of her.

I have found that a small percentage of women do not enjoy oral sex. That amazed me! But, I was not
aware that the bacteria found in the mouth is more
insidious to the tissues of the female reproductive and urinary systems than some forms of STD - including HPV. This fact alone has encouraged me to brush my teeth five times a day, and have my teeth cleaned three times a year. I am concerned
when I get a sore spot on my gums. Mostly, it's
Gingivitis, and is easily dealth with. I have been told that HIV can enter the body through sores in the moutth. So, that being the case, I don't eat out
as much - but I do recipricate if my mate agrees to.

I don't have a site you can check to confirm this;
I only have the 'testimony'" of women who were
v- e- r - y i nsistant on not being "eaten out" by order of their gynocologists. I have to admit:
I love to lick!

Women have the power. May she be Black, Yellow, Brown or White - no matter what her religious affiliation - getting laid is not worth dying for - no matter how good it feels, in the end death is not the pay off for great sex . . . at least in my eyes.

I have been refused sex many times for not wanting to wear a condom. I didn't go ballistic, or raise a temper tantrum, or threaten to do bodily harm to the person - I respected her wishes, and used one. In some cases, I had engaged in the
cliche' called "safe sex" (remember that term??)
were we examines each other and mutually
masturbated to orgasm.

Man, that was an endeavor - being urged to come by a woman siting in a chair six feet from you while you ejaculated upon the floor. It was enough to make you want to get married. Well, not quite.

What I am trying to say is: I like to watch Porn.
That way, when I do myself at least it is in a more intimate setting - and at least I can turn the sound down - can't concentrate on erotic thoughts with someone giving you lame "encouragement".

Overall, like most men, I prefer to have penetration rather than the latter. But, the woman has that right to protect herself.

So, gentlemen - NO GLOVE, NO LOVE. You'll both live longer if you file that thought away for future referrence. If Mr. James, or any man, followed that bromide this matter of HIV in the Adult Film Industry would never had come to pass. As I believe I stated - it has already become "yesterday's news."

This is a very energizing forum. Let's not allow it to become the playgorund of those with their own political and racial agendas. I'll be checking in from time to time.

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